by Frank "FOE" Peam, Jr.SPIT - The True Story
by Frank "FOE" Peam, Jr.
from Puritan Magazine: Issue #62 - April 1999
"On my 13th birthday, my girlfriend asked me what I wanted and I said that I wanted a blow job and to eat her pussy. And she said ok." - Vinnie SPIT
The image of two teachers entwined in a kinky, lust filled relationship conjures up the image of Mrs. Edna Krabappel and Principal Seymour Skinner from the animated television show the Simpsons. They steal away in broom closets and fondle each other until finally climaxing in the missionary position 3 minutes later. Then they go about their business, hiding their desires and fantasies from the world.
Mistress Jacqueline and Vinnie SPIT (the self proclaimed "Godfather of Smut") destroy that image with as much energy as a thirteen year old boy who has just found his Dad's porno mag collection, and they want to share those desires and fantasies with the world.
One (Mistress Jacqueline) a 5th grade teacher the other (Vinnie SPIT) a high school Special Ed teacher, did not meet in the hallway of Springfield elementary on the way to the Teacher's Lounge. They met through the pages of a fetish magazine. Both were featured in separate articles on spanking, on adjacent pages. One thing lead to another and now they are married (best man was Ron Jeremy), run a business together (Pacific Force, Inc.), make music together (the band SPIT), publish magazines (Power X-Change being one of them), write books (Whips and Kisses), star in films (of the fetish variety), run 800 and 900 numbers, offer a Home Slave Training Course and live in a house complete with it's own dungeon. As close to the American Dream as you can get.
The most recent project the dynamic duo has been associated with is the cd "Porn to Rock" on Callner Music. The 13 song disc was released this spring. Vinnie SPIT and Mistress Jacqueline's song, "Asshole Man" is one of the most over the top and unusual songs on the disc, sounding like an X-rated version of the Cantina band from the Star Wars movies, or a swing band from purgatory.
Some of the other noteworthy artists on the disc, which features (as the title implies), artists in "the business," include Ginger Lynn, Madison, Hypatia Lee, Chloe Nichole and Johnny Toxic.
Puritan recently got to talk to the multi-talented Vinnie SPIT and Mistress Jacqueline. The conversation follows. As it turns out, the two are very familiar with Puritan and the Eastern Pennsylvania area (where Puritan is headquartered), even though they are currently based in Hollywood, California.
Vinnie: How are you doing?
Puritan: Good. How are you doing?
Vinnie: This interview is for what magazine?
Puritan: Puritan.
Vinnie: Puritan the porno of...
Puritan: You got it.
Vinnie: Wow. Actually I grew up on that magazine. That's cool. Shit, I found a Puritan in a garbage dumpster, when I was like 11 or 12 years old. There was a spread on Jamie Gillis and Serena. I used to jerk off to that regularly. We publish Power X-Change, an S/M magazine. I used to go to Millersville University (about a two hour drive from Puritan headquarters). We (SPIT) used to play the Chameleon in Lancaster. Lancaster is a pretty cool town. It is like this great little place right in the hub of nowheresville. I grew up in the Delaware/Philadelphia area. Jacqueline is from New York. We were both school teachers. I taught high school, she taught 5th grade. We then settled out here (Hollywood, California).
Puritan: What made you leave your teaching careers?
Vinnie: It (teaching) is an economic prison.
Jacqueline: I found better things to do!
Vinnie: We both wanted to work in the adult business. I had a recording studio, and I was making more money running that and doing SPIT shows and selling my merchandise than I was teaching. It got to the point where teaching was getting in the way.
Puritan: When was the first time that you combined porn and rock, or music and sex together?
Vinnie: I would say, the first time we played the House of Sex, in 1993. We had a lot of our friends from the business and people we play with in our personal lives at the show. It was one of those times when we worked ourselves into a lather and I felt like we forgot the audience was there and really went at it.
Jacqueline: I remember the first time I came to one of Vinnie's shows. It was electric. He picked me up right on stage. SPIT is all about sexuality. It's a totally charged experience when you go to a show. Music and sex have always been something that has been combined. Just think about the first time you parked your car and made out with somebody with rock n roll music playing in the background.
Puritan: How did you come to build a dungeon in your house?
Vinnie: Doesn't everybody have a dungeon in their house?
Jacqueline: We're in Better Homes and Dungeons! When you are naughty where do you go? I mean everybody needs a place to go when you are naughty. It makes sense to me.
Actually Vinnie is very handy and he built everything in the dungeon. A rack to stretch you out on, a table to tie you down on, we've got suspension bars to stretch you right side up, upside down so you can be whipped, teased, tickled, whatever you want. We've got a spanking block, we've got whips, more whips than you've ever seen in your life. Paddles, hair brushes and all kinds of things to have a really good time with, so anytime you want to come by, come on over...
Puritan: Is it true that Mistress Jacqueline gave Madonna some private lessons for the movie Body of Evidence?
Jacqueline: Absolutely true. I knew a producer named Lizzy Borden who did a documentary called Working Girls, not to be confused with the regular movie. And she also did the movie Love Crimes. So Lizzy read my book Whips and Kisses, and contacted me, and told me that somebody in Hollywood needed lessons because they were going to be doing a movie that was S/M oriented. I didn't even know who's place I was going to. They told me I wasn't allowed to know. So a car picked me up one night, took me up Mulholland Drive, and there was Madonna's house. She and I had a little discussion. She was very nice. I had fun teaching Madonna the ropes. I actually got to tie her up. You shouldn't really do any S/M stuff unless you experience it yourself. So she had a belt (a scene in the movie has Madonna using a belt in such a manner), and I put it around her chest and showed her a few things.
Puritan: What was the turning point in your sexual development to lead you away from a typical vanilla sex life?
Vinnie: When I was very young I was very much into porn and used to root through the trash dumpsters with my friend Rich to find these magazines before I was old enough to buy them. I used to always have sexual fantasies about spanking. But I never knew anybody, I mean kids that age just talk about boobs and stuff, and I found in one magazine, I believe it a was Penthouse Variations, where they talked about spanking. To me, it was like, "OK, adults do this, so it's ok, I am not a weirdo." So it was in that sense that pornography sort of saved my life, or gave me that sense of self confidence. That was the major turning point, because at that point, I let my sexuality run wild.
Puritan: How long til you then went out and experienced it (non vanilla activity)?
Vinnie: I was sexually active pretty young. On my thirteenth birthday, my girlfriend asked me what I wanted and I said that I wanted a blow job and to eat her pussy. And she said ok. The interesting thing about girls that young is that they don't know anything about sex, so whatever you are pushing on them, that's what guys do at that age, they seem to go along with. So I was always doing the spanking and bondage stuff mixed in with the sex thing. Every girl I was with just kind of bought it. So I got to do that stuff very young.
Jacqueline: I always knew that I had predilections towards S/M, power play sort of stuff. I was one of those people that tried to suppress it, and say that I will go on with an ordinary life. But it was in me so strongly that I guess, in my early to mid 20s, I knew that I had to experiment and I was lucky enough to meet somebody that was into this. He showed me things and got me into the community and I joined one of the local organizations in Los Angeles and I started learning about it. It was very empowering to express myself as who I really am. Today I help other people get that feeling. I am a therapist and I run support groups and I let people know that it is ok to be different, and I try to teach people to embrace their sexuality.
Puritan: Who was the first band or singer to inspire you to get involved in music?
Vinnie: One of the first when I was very young was Ted Nugent. Then Wendy O'Williams, I love the Plasmatics. Jello Biafra. And then of course Jim Foetus, the first performer that I saw to do everything himself. I play all of the instruments on my albums myself.
Jacqueline: I like a lot of energy on stage. I like David Johansen of the New York Dolls. Anyone who exudes sexual energy. Like Tina Turner, Janis Joplin. Females who weren't just singing "la de da" kinds of things. Wendy O'Williams as well.
Puritan: Do you plan on taking the musical aspect of your career further? Where is your concentration?
Vinnie: We are very successful at our company (Pacific Force, Inc.). So we don't have to make money from our music. So we get to do it our way under our own terms. Right now there are two cds out in the stores, "G-String Swing" on Flat Top Records and "Crude Rude Dude" which is a greatest hits record, on Hot Entertainment. I can put whatever I want on the covers of the records. I have put out 11 records over the years. If the label I am dealing with isn't cool with something, I say fuck them, and go to the next one because I don't need their money. I get the distribution anyway. If clubs don't let us do the act we want to do, then we go to the next one.
Puritan: What would you do if you could only do one, porn or rock?
Vinnie: We publish 4 magazines, we put out about 20 movies a year, we do an album a year and tour, we have web sites that are pay sites, 900 and 800 numbers, a bunch of things going on. We could probably sell anything.
Jacqueline: We also have other interests. Vinnie used to be a Special Ed teacher, and worked with the handicapped. Every year for Christmas we donate guitars to one of the centers in Los Angeles. We donate time, Vinnie teaches the kids guitar.
Vinnie: Since we have the money, we can go out and do cool things. I always say to people, so what if you have money, what are you doing with it? They sometimes answer "Well I am doing a lot of drugs." Well, we're going out producing cool stuff and kind of giving back to the community where people have been sort of ripped off. And I always feel that someone who was born with a handicap was kind of ripped off.
Jacqueline: We are proud to be who we are. I've never been one to hide my face. I was one of the first people to go out there and say who I was and go on the talk shows. I really believe in reaching out to others to let them know it is ok to be who they are. To not feel shame or guilt about their sexuality, and to be able to express themselves.
Puritan: So you think you could be doing what you are doing with your band SPIT in other states?
Vinnie: I have toured the country a bunch of times. In 1992, we played a lot of rural areas. We ended up playing Boise, Idaho. It was the Reach Out And Spank Someone Tour, we sold paddles at the show, and we invited people up on stage to be spanked, and in every single city, no matter how rural or whatever, people came up and participated. The girl I spanked in Boise was chewing tobacco. I made a little joke, "Are you chewing gum, I hope you brought enough for the rest of us." And she said, "It's not gum," and spit chew on my shoe. So that deserved a spanking right there.